Surprised? A Jesuit panel sees ‘Tremendous Overlap’ Between Joe Biden and Vatican

Back in December, I read an recent article on Brietbart by THOMAS D. WILLIAMS, PH.D.. I'm not sure I've ever copied an article in its entirety to comment on it, but there was so much in this one I've been sorely tempted.

Let me draw the cast of parties for you first:

Jesuit-run Georgetown University 

Vatican

Pope Francis

Shaun Casey

Joe Biden

China

Trump

United Nations

European Union

So let's start:

Panelists at Jesuit-run Georgetown University... converged ... in the common belief that a Biden administration will see eye-to-eye on many issues with the Vatican of Pope Francis.

“There’s great opportunity for overlap there,” said the director of Georgetown’s Berkley Center for Religion, Peace and World Affairs “And I really do think the Vatican wants to get down to business and I am confident that our new president-to-be — the Roman Catholic Joe Biden — is eager to find ways to collaborate together.”

“There’s reason for great hope and great progress here despite the fact that he is a pro-life [sic] Catholic,” Mr. Casey said in reference to Biden with an evident slip of the tongue. “That will never be transcended in the relationship. It’s just a fact and there’s going to be noise and there will be implications of that over the length of Biden’s term.”

“However, when you look at the foreign policy priorities of the impending American administration, and that of the papacy of Francis, there is a tremendous overlap between their priorities,” he said, enumerating “climate change, rebuilding global refugee resettlement networks, seeking Middle East peace, combatting anti-Semitism and Islamophobia, confronting global populist movements all around the planet, and reducing nuclear arms.”

Casey also praised the Vatican for its controversial 2018 agreement with China on the naming of bishops, pointing to it as an example of successful diplomacy that the United States could learn from.

“Whatever that agreement contains or doesn’t contain, the Vatican diplomatic corps are really one of the few among the 200 or so sovereign states that can say they have been in modestly successful long-term negotiations with the Chinese,” he said.

Casey also said that U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had missed an opportunity by criticizing the deal.

“If I were secretary of state, I would have said, ‘I know you can’t tell us the details, we don’t want to know the details, but can you give us any clues, any hints, any insights in how to engage China on a diplomatic basis?’”

“The Trump administration’s diplomacy with China is a mess,” Casey said. “We have receded in the last four years and they seem to be clueless and here you have a sovereign state, tiny though it may be, that actually has some defensible success in engaging them.”

“They’ve done what nobody else seems to be able to do,” he said.

Journalist Josh McElwee, Vatican correspondent for the progressive National Catholic Reporter, substantially agreed with Casey, suggesting that there will be significantly greater understanding between the Vatican and the U.S. under a Biden presidency.

“I think going forward, this could be an area where we see a big difference between Trump and Biden’s engagement with the Vatican,” McElwee said. “Biden’s future ambassador will be able to speak more to the pope’s core diplomatic concerns, things like climate change, strengthening international institutions like the U.N. or the E.U., the continuing migration crisis, arms control, and other issues.”

“I think for Catholics the wild card might be the U.S. bishops’ conference,” McElwee cautioned. “There is a small minority of U.S. bishops who have been increasingly open about being critical about Pope Francis and they may protest if the Vatican is working too closely with the Biden administration or isn’t critiquing Biden on his stance on legalized abortion.”

Jesuit Father Drew Christiansen, Georgetown professor of ethics and human development, also praised the pope’s diplomatic relations with China.

One thing that makes China open to Francis is that “the Catholic Church understands that they are a distinctive culture and has honored that,” Father Christiansen said. “I think a great respect for the culture is a way to build up the relationship.”

Just last week, Pope Francis chose Joe Biden’s slogan “build back better” to describe his vision for the great reset after the coronavirus pandemic, saying he finds the expression “quite striking.”

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Panelists at Jesuit-run Georgetown University converged Friday in the common belief that a Biden administration will see eye-to-eye on many issues with the Vatican of Pope Francis.

“There’s great opportunity for overlap there,” said the director of Georgetown’s Berkley Center for Religion, Peace and World Affairs, Shaun Casey, in an online webinar, “And I really do think the Vatican wants to get down to business and I am confident that our new president-to-be — the Roman Catholic Joe Biden — is eager to find ways to collaborate together.”

“There’s reason for great hope and great progress here despite the fact that he is a pro-life [sic] Catholic,” Mr. Casey said in reference to Biden with an evident slip of the tongue. “That will never be transcended in the relationship. It’s just a fact and there’s going to be noise and there will be implications of that over the length of Biden’s term.”

“However, when you look at the foreign policy priorities of the impending American administration, and that of the papacy of Francis, there is a tremendous overlap between their priorities,” he said, enumerating “climate change, rebuilding global refugee resettlement networks, seeking Middle East peace, combatting anti-Semitism and Islamophobia, confronting global populist movements all around the planet, and reducing nuclear arms.”

Casey also praised the Vatican for its controversial 2018 agreement with China on the naming of bishops, pointing to it as an example of successful diplomacy that the United States could learn from.

“Whatever that agreement contains or doesn’t contain, the Vatican diplomatic corps are really one of the few among the 200 or so sovereign states that can say they have been in modestly successful long-term negotiations with the Chinese,” he said.

Casey also said that U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had missed an opportunity by criticizing the deal.

“If I were secretary of state, I would have said, ‘I know you can’t tell us the details, we don’t want to know the details, but can you give us any clues, any hints, any insights in how to engage China on a diplomatic basis?’”

“The Trump administration’s diplomacy with China is a mess,” Casey said. “We have receded in the last four years and they seem to be clueless and here you have a sovereign state, tiny though it may be, that actually has some defensible success in engaging them.”

“They’ve done what nobody else seems to be able to do,” he said.

Journalist Josh McElwee, Vatican correspondent for the progressive National Catholic Reporter, substantially agreed with Casey, suggesting that there will be significantly greater understanding between the Vatican and the U.S. under a Biden presidency.

“I think going forward, this could be an area where we see a big difference between Trump and Biden’s engagement with the Vatican,” McElwee said. “Biden’s future ambassador will be able to speak more to the pope’s core diplomatic concerns, things like climate change, strengthening international institutions like the U.N. or the E.U., the continuing migration crisis, arms control, and other issues.”

“I think for Catholics the wild card might be the U.S. bishops’ conference,” McElwee cautioned. “There is a small minority of U.S. bishops who have been increasingly open about being critical about Pope Francis and they may protest if the Vatican is working too closely with the Biden administration or isn’t critiquing Biden on his stance on legalized abortion.”

Jesuit Father Drew Christiansen, Georgetown professor of ethics and human development, also praised the pope’s diplomatic relations with China.

One thing that makes China open to Francis is that “the Catholic Church understands that they are a distinctive culture and has honored that,” Father Christiansen said. “I think a great respect for the culture is a way to build up the relationship.”

Just last week, Pope Francis chose Joe Biden’s slogan “build back better” to describe his vision for the great reset after the coronavirus pandemic, saying he finds the expression “quite striking.”

source article: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/06/georgetown-panel-sees-tremendous-overlap-between-biden-vatican/

Trump showed his agenda in Yemen

Trump has vetoed a Congressional resolution to end US support of the Saudi led war in Yemen. He's following the instruction of his master in the Vatican I imagine, to destabilize the Middle East so the Vatican and Israel can rule the whole area (revived Roman Empire) with their Saudi accomplices. This is the reawakening of the Beast Empire. Watch as the Beast throws the Woman That Rides The Beast off its back: the end of the Roman Catholic Church and its daughters, as a Jesuit Roman Pontiff sheds the skin of Marianism for unbridled Luciferianism.
https://www.rt.com/usa/456769-trump-vetoes-yemen-resolution/

Israeli News from a Jewish Perspective

This site is written from a Jewish perspective, which doesn't recognize Yeshua Mashiach (Jesus the Messiah), but shows what sums leading minds see in development of biblical prophecy.

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/#xbF6LPCZ24x42t9m.97

Are the elite guilty of serious crimes, but get away with it?

I was watching a few YouTube.com videos a while ago, and one of them alleged the royals of years past practiced cannibalism. I thought this a bit of a wild and serious allegation, so I checked it out, followed my nose...

Have a watch of this video, and see how far you get before you want to check some facts: https://youtu.be/VLXyFn7T3Co.

I got to the spot where it alleged the queen and Pope Benedict had been found guilty of crimes against humanity. I stopped. I checked the reference number supposedly of the court case.

I took the reference number '022513—001' and searched. There was a page full of links. The page of most obvious value was : http://itccs.org/2013/02/25/guilty-final-verdict-is-rendered-in-first-common-law-court-case-against-the-vatican-and-canada-for-genocide/.  Ok, so the court is very anti-religious and seemingly anti-Monarchy, but facts are facts, aren't they?

GO AHEAD...  READ IT... MAKE MY DAY.

Faith & Geo-politics

An interesting video that shows little seem news and links US &  NATO activity to that of the Vatican. Very interesting to yet again see the hands of the Roman Pontiff in worldly affairs.
https://youtu.be/BJFHK2bzXmI

Tidings from the East trouble him

It's not often I hear a good, contextual talk about the time of the end. So much information is promoted to scare people, and even to manipulate them, that sounds teachings and exposition doesn't often get a look in. If you listen to this video all the way through, it may change your view of the Time Of The End, make real to you characters depicted in prophesy and give got more certainty and peace fire you and your family with do much happening around us.

https://youtu.be/xO4Yx4bC0n0

Rome's North American Union

The North American Union (NAU) was planned as early as 1946. It was part of a deliberate plan to create ten regions on the world, under the United Nations.

Donald Trump is standing against plans for the NAU, planning to wind back what previous presidents have accomplished for the NAU. He even said he wants to build a wall between USA and Mexico.

I found myself pondering this afternoon what would happen to the balance of religion should the borders fully open. After doing a little checking with decent sources, I have the following figures:

Canada
Population aprox 36,258,000
Catholic 40.6% (includes Roman Catholic 38.8%, Orthodox 1.6%, other Catholic .2%),
Protestant 20.3% (includes United Church 6.1%, Anglican 5%, Baptist 1.9%, Lutheran 1.5%, Pentecostal 1.5%, Presbyterian 1.4%, other Protestant 2.9%),
other Christian 6.3%,
Muslim 3.2% etc...

United States
Population aprox 323,927,500.
Protestant 51.3%, Roman Catholic 23.9%, Mormon 1.7%, other Christian 1.6%, Jewish 1.7%, Buddhist 0.7%, Muslim 0.6%

Mexico
Population aprox 128,500,000
Roman Catholic 82.7%, Pentecostal 1.6%, Jehovah's Witnesses 1.4%, other Evangelical Churches 5%

Canada having twice as many Catholics (40%) as Protestants (20%) means it is likely to be a strongly Catholic influence in a merged entity.

Mexico is of course mega-Catholic. Over 80%!

USA: Bastion of Protestantism

The USA was a devoutly protestant nation. The pilgrims escaped persecution by the Roman Pope and his minions. Early fathers valued religious freedom and gave others individual freedom to worship as they saw fit.

Roman Church: Master of Souls

The Roman Church though, rules with a heavy hand. In some parts of Europe, it still takes tithes directly from your employer for you to remain part of the congregation and not be ex-communicated. And be part of a congregation you will; if you want to enter heaven. For to be ex-communicated is to miss the eucharist; which is to miss the trans-substantiated Body Of Christ and therefore put your eternal soul in jeopardy.

To the Roman Catholic, forgiveness is not by faith as Martin Luther taught, but from the hand of the Roman Catholic hierarchy, who have the power to shut heaven's gate to the sinner who doesn't receive forgiveness through them. This in fact happened to the English aristocracy when they strayed under (evil) King John in medieval times. The Roman Pope bade his friars to close the doors to the churches in order to bring the aristocracy intimate line. This caused panic, for that immediately created for their eternal souls and towed the line. To see how far Papal power extended (as it does still), read up on the Treaty Of Verona (1213 A.D.) which bound King John to the will of Pope Innocent III.

The Trend in the USA

Given the Caucasian, Protestant citizens of the USA have a low birth rate (about 1.7, I think, which doesn't sustain population, let alone grow it), we'd have to hope some other Protestants were either growing the church by births or getting enough converts to make up the numbers.

The African Americans have traditionally been Protestant, and have a family size that facilitates moderate growth in generations. Whether they retain the faith is another thing, of course.

The quickest growing, influential race demographic in the USA is actually the Hispanics. They have a higher birth rate than the African Americans and retain religious affiliation much more.

The small demographic worth mentioning is that if the Muslims. Whilst under 1%of the population, they have an average of EIGHT children per family, giving explosive growth. The religion is also enforced. Once a Muslim,  always a Muslim as far as they are concerned. Those who decide to leave are disenfranchised, persecuted, physically abused and at worse killed.

The Jews lay low religiously, but are actually more organized, far wealthier and incredibly more influential than any other religious / cultural group in the USA. The 1.7% of Beers in the USA run Hollywood, the media, the Federal Reserve and all the large banks, the folks and diamond companies, the stock exchange... You want me to keep going? They really do OWN America, including the politicians!

The Mother & Her Daughters

When there's a coup d'etat in a country, does the new military leader seek to recruit every soldier in the country or convert the leaders? No. The new generalisimo looks for existing leaders he can convert into his fold. There's often some personal, cultural or even moral leverage the new man can use to 'stretch out his tent pegs' and 'fill the house'.

Whilst the church of the first century, and maybe upto mid second century, was largely organic, the advent of Romanism, melding power and politics with religion to forge a single governing and religious organisation, substantially changed a largely organic structure where natural leaders were followed "as they followed Christ" (quoting the Apostle Paul) to an authoritative, top-down power structure we see today in Roman Catholicism. More than purely a chance in governance, because the religious leadership was merged with politics and power, the Roman Catholic Church became the most wealthy organisation on the planet. Whilst the wealth of the Rothschild's, the White Dragons (collective Asian Mafia recently come under single leadership to challenge Western power), various royalty, and business billionaires is not to be sneezed at,  the Vatican Bank has for decades been intertwined with some of these (most probably the Rothschilds).

The Vatican has the longest serving secret service, is adept in intrigue, holds influence over many politicians and power brokers in a multitude of countries. It's a wonder the churches that sprang from it haven't been won back. Or have they?

Surprise, Surprise!

The Roman Popes have worked long and hard the past century or so to win back to the Mother Church the errant denominations that strayed from her skirts. The effort has in fact met with great success. Many protestant, pentecostal and orthodox denominations world wide now acknowledge the Roman Pope as their true and ultimate head on earth.

Given also the Jesuits have worked hard and long to establish a papal influence in what was originally a strongly protestant land, it is very likely the Pope has Jesuits and Opus Dei people in very strategic positions throughout the USA, ready to take advantage of a strategic gain. There is a long and detailed history of Jesuit dealings in USA. Some USA Presidents spoke very clearly about them, that they are very dangerous and the Vatican was knee deep in political intrigue. Given that the Jews don't worship the God of their Fathers, but are actually what Yeshua Mashiach (Jesus Christ) called the Synagogue of Satan, involved in the Mystery Babylon religion (as are the high and hidden orders of the Vatican, but not consciously the average Roman Catholic), it should not be surprising that the mainstream media has made a fair circus of the recent Papal visit to the USA, in which the current Roman Pope addressed Congress and met personally with Obama. This is a break through in the VISIBLE relationship between the Vatican & USA. Much more is going on less visibly.

Turning The Tide
It is often crisis that brings change. Indeed, the architects of the New World Order expect to bring "order out us chaos". The Hegelian Dialectic is alive and well in the midst of the Illuminists. One side pushes one way; the other side the other way; and in the chaos the agenda progresses as the problem seems to be solved - as planned all along. What would it take to tip the USA into chaos and hasten the fully functional NAU? Maybe financial problems. Possibly terrorist attacks. It could even be due to civil unrest and the need to restore order. The Pope after all is a very influential man, and if called upon to assist the transition would be very ready to do so, as the USA is soon be a Catholic enclave and part of the NAU with Catholic Mexico and quite Catholic Canada.

Is Trump a Good Guy?
Only time will tell if Trump is a good guy. I suspect not. I think his rhetoric is most likely pay off the Hegelian Dialectic of the moment. After all, despite the powers that be commenting he's "not one of the initiates" (Skull & Bones,  Freemasonry etc.), he lives on the 66th floor and his apartment is decorated with incredibly realistic scenes of pagan gods like Zues, Apollo etc.; the very same ancient  personalities as the Illuminati are soaked in and are even very seriously trying to reach out to (believing they are in Saturn) and/or trying to bring back by very advanced gene/DNA experimental science. If sounds weird,  I know, but that's what's going on. So if Trump is cut from the same cloth, the way he talks may just be trickery.

What if USA goes down?
In closing, a great many commentators are very concerned about the USA. I am one of them. If we read USA (even part of) as Mystery Babylon (or part of) then the USA is in for a VERY BUMPY RIDE. How soon? The exit of very many ultra-rich from USA to New Zealand, Australia, South Africa and other refuges has become staggering the last couple of years and is at fever pitch.

My advice is find Yehovah / YHWH and his son Yeshua/Yehoshua for real. Get on your knees and pray; soak yourself in the gospels and letters; and follow his leading to the letter. I believe he has a plan to care for his own if things fall apart. But you must know Him. It came just be intellect, and the Bible (KJV, ESV,  NASB are all good versions) is sufficient for God himself to talk to you about your life and new life as His child.

Sources
Population : http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/
Religion : CIA Fact Book (online)

Peres: "We need a U.N. of Religions"

I missed seeing this when it came out, but my research has caught it now, and it's important. Simon Peres is an 'elder statesman' in the Middle East and had proposed a 'United Nations of Religions', stating the "United Nations has had its day".

From the article...

“Now, given the fact that the United Nations has had its day, what is needed is an Organisation of United Religions, a U.N. of religions. It would be the best way to combat these terrorists who kill in the name of faith because the majority of people are not like them …,” he said.

Read the entire article at http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2014/09/05/shimon-peres-floats-idea-of-u-n-style-united-religions-with-pope-francis/.

Why is this such an important event?

1. It comes from the Middle East
2. It comes from a powerful Jew and suggests religious Israel, which has a very strong religious identify, should join forces with Islam, Christianity and other world religions in order to bring peace.
3. It is suggestive of the Vatican playing a larger role, with the Roman Pope heading the peak body.

Colossal Progress
What's not generally known at this juncture is that there has been much dialog between religious figures and authorities regarding the need for a one world religion, and there has been a colossal amount of progress in forming this religion. Almost all the large protestant and pentecostal church denominations in the USA have now recognized the Roman Pope as their earthly head. The main Jewish council (the Sanhedrin) has invited the Roman Pope to conduct mass in holy sites in Israel with the Sanhedrin, and this has now happened a number of times. The Roman Pope in Vatican II stated the "Moslems are of our fold" (approximate wording) and at this stage the Pope is working towards cementing relationship with Islam.

Vatican Involvement
Lastly, the Vatican was very involved in setting up the most recent two state solution of Israel and Palestine. My research had always led me to believe the Rothschilds and Illuminati were the most significant party involved, but it seems the Vatican s intimately involved. Look further, and we find out the Vatican had enormous land holdings in Israel. Add to that the Roman Pope assisting the Palestinians with recognition as a state and adding his skills and influence to resolve problems around the Temple Mount ; but at the price of land ownership by the Vatican and full access to the Temple Mount.

Then of course, we need to add the recent dialog with the patriarch of the Eastern / Russian Orthodox Church.

So it very much seems the course is set, and much progress has been made. This goes hand in hand with the article I just published, although I drafted this before.

Move over United Nations, the World Parliament is here (see the article), and it will likely work hand in hand with the 'United Nations of Religions' now being formed.

And it almost sounds so reasonable!

Vatican, Israel & Two Witnesses

In this video Steven Ben-Nun looks at the situation on Israel as to the existing two states, including history with the Rothschilds and the lesser known involvement of the Vatican. He also discussed the immense land ownership in Israel by the Vatican, and reconciliation of Israel to YHWH , possessible aided by the Two Witnesses. This is worth watching because:

1. Steven handles Ezekiel 35 intelligently
2. He references historical extra-biblical (Protestant Canon) sources that concur with Ezekiel and added more detail
3. He brings to light things which are hidden in regards to Israel's situation  Edom, The Vatican and more.

It's s good solid feed. If are unfamiliar with some of the background and themes, please post questions directly to Steven or to me and we'll attempt to answer intelligently.

Enjoy watching: 

https://youtu.be/A01PXvRyhbc

Shalom